#81: How to Stop Hiding from Yourself and Reclaim Your Power with Elizabeth Guilbeault
Elizabeth Guilbeault is back on the podcast to chat about hiding from yourself and reclaiming your power. You may be hiding from yourself because you’re afraid of being seen by others. Or perhaps you are hiding from yourself because you don’t believe you can accomplish the things you really want to accomplish in your life – your deepest hopes and dreams. It can feel safer to hide from yourself and bury things down deep, but if you want to live your life in alignment with who you truly are, it is time to reclaim your power. Get curious with yourself and fall in love with your life.
In this episode you’ll hear from Elizabeth and I about personal ways that we’ve hidden from ourselves, how we turned things around, and ways that you can reclaim your power.
If you want support on your journey, I'd be honored to work with you. You’re invited to reach out anytime. I offer Human Design readings so that you can learn more about your own energy and how you operate. I also offer Voxer coaching, which is great for people that are on the go and want real time, customized support and guidance. It’s about meeting you where you are right now and what you're going through. You can message me on Voxer (@ maryclavieres) if you’d like to chat or if you have any questions.
Past Episodes with Elizabeth:
Episode 73: Growing Your Spiritual Gifts with Elizabeth Guilbeault
Episode 61: Intentions, Energy, and Showing Up When Life Feels Hard with Elizabeth Guilbeault
Episode 47: Energetic Alignment, Managing Anxiety and Parenting with Elizabeth Guilbeault
Episode 22: Easy Meditation Practices for Every Day Life with Elizabeth Guilbeault
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Mary Clavieres 00:00
Mary, hello and welcome to Change from Within. I'm your host. Mary Clavieres. This podcast is here to help you uncover your unique path to living your most aligned life. I'm so excited for today's episode, we have a special guest who is also very familiar with the podcast. No surprise, no surprise, that she's here with us today, my dear friend. Elizabeth Guilbeault. Hi, Elizabeth,
00:35
hello.
Mary Clavieres 00:38
I'm not even giving you a whole intro you've been on so many episodes at this point, if everyone wants to hear your whole intro, they can, well, they can go in the show notes and and look at all the other beautiful episodes that you've been on. So that's first. And thank you for being here today.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 00:57
Thank you for having me here. I'm thrilled to be here.
Mary Clavieres 01:01
So we're having a conversation. I I jumped right in. I didn't even, I didn't even start with a whole background on what we're talking about, what we're doing. But basically, as in some previous episodes, Elizabeth and I are going to have a conversation. We're exploring some topics today, and today's topic is around, there's kind of, there's kind of two topics, two topics in one, hiding from yourself. Because, well, a lot, I think a lot of listeners, can probably relate to at least a portion of that, and also reclaiming your power. So when you're done hiding from yourself, how do you reclaim your power? That's that's what we're here for today.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 01:50
So good, so many good things to think about and talk about, and I can't wait to get into it.
Mary Clavieres 01:56
I know. Okay, well I'm going to start with the thing that that you were hoping to remember to say because we were chatting before we started recording, because it was so good and it's been staying with me. Actually, you talked about, or you, you mentioned we didn't have a whole podcast episode before we recorded this one, but you mentioned how your work, and being clairvoyant and seeing other people actually starts with yourself, which I think is such a fascinating concept. So can you talk about that a little bit? Yes.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 02:33
So yeah, as others may know, and as you mentioned, my bio and whatnot. I teach a lot of meditation and work with people individually, working with meditation tools and doing readings and healings with people from a space of clairvoyance, from seeing energy. Clairvoyance is nothing more than seeing energy clearly. And when I started down the path of getting into meditation and tripped into developing this clairvoyant space intuition. People kept saying to me, you can read other people. You can read other people. And I thought, that's great. And also, I'm doing this because I want to see for myself. I want to see myself. I want to see my answers. I want to know about my life. And it's a funny thing that when people hear about or learn about this party trick that I can do, I guess for some it's interesting that I'm a clairvoyant, that I see energy, right? They immediately ask, Are you reading me right now? And I, I always say no, because I am to me, it's more about seeing myself. Being able to see clearly is about seeing me. And when you can really see yourself, it creates space for other people to see you clearly. So when you can see and identify yourself clearly, what you're creating, what you want, who you are, it helps other people to see you more clearly and often, things flow differently without us even realizing it,
Mary Clavieres 04:24
I completely agree I have it's like similar, but from an opposite direction, because for me, for me, well, it's maybe just very similar, like I couldn't see myself and I wanted to see myself, and the more I allowed myself to kind of discover and figure out, what am I about? Who am I? What do I want? The more that I could see that then it was easier for other people to also see that in me and then recognize and understand the type of work I do. It brought me. Clarity, and then it also brought other people clarity. You know, yes,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 05:02
and there's so many ways to get there, right? Other people can identify it for you, so you may not see something yourself, and someone else identifies it, which is really helpful, as we're growing up in our teens, adolescence. It's sometimes helpful to have that teacher or parent or mentor or friend to say, Hey, do you know you're really good at that? Do you know that's a thing? And then you can see that for yourself. And then there's the other way, where you can start dedicating time, and I don't mean a lot of time, just dedicating some time in your day to grounding, focusing in on, who am I? What am I creating? What am I seeing for myself? And it's really such a powerful practice to develop and ask yourself those questions so that you can really check in. It's so powerful to be able to check in with yourself, as most know that have listened before every day, my website, everyday energy, my book every day. It's all about every day, doing this every day. It's not a one size fits all, one, one and done. Oh, I looked at that once 10 years ago. I'm good, because every day we're changing and growing, and parts of us are unraveling, coming out, coming together.
Mary Clavieres 06:35
I feel like I'm just going to keep saying yes, I agree like me too on every episode, and at the same time I'm going to pose a question, because I agree the looking internal and kind of going within and seeing, I mean, obviously this podcast is called change from within. It all comes from within you in different ways. But like you said, like someone might see something in you and spark a comment might spark for you to recognize something about yourself. What I'm backing up to a little bit is also the realization and just the understanding that a lot of people are probably even just they're scared to look at themselves. They're chasing things because maybe they don't want to look, maybe they don't want to, or maybe they don't know that they need to.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 07:37
Yeah and go ahead.
Mary Clavieres 07:39
No, I was just going to ask, What? What are your thoughts on that? Because I feel like it's a big thing for people to recognize that they do need to look at themselves. You know,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 07:51
yes, and there's so I feel like there's so many pieces of that, because I know a lot of people work remote these days, so the water cooler chats aren't happening as often as organically as they used to back in the day when everyone was in person all the time. And yet, those those water cool talks are not Hey, what did you notice about yourself in meditation last night? Hey guys, I did this really cool meditation this morning. Or that's not what people are talking about. Yeah, it's very much what I talk about. I will say that phrase is heard in my house, and yet that's not what that's not still the practice. Even though a lot of people are meditating, right? A lot of people meditate or have some kind of a practice. It's still not the thing that we talk about or validate with each other in terms of, Hey, did what did you notice about yourself, or what were you looking at in meditation, or what came to you? And those are the conversations I think that are so fun to have and yet. So if we're not having that conversation, I don't know that people are having that thought, Hey, maybe I should look at this. Maybe there's an opportunity. Or, oh, they discovered that when they were in meditation. Oh, maybe that's something I could do. So I think sometimes people don't know or don't think about it. We get so programmed into our day, and so quote, busy, that unless we really consciously pause, it's the universe is not providing that pause. Usually,
Mary Clavieres 09:41
actually, I was just thinking about this earlier today. I Yeah, earlier today, when I was thinking about us recording, I just had this realization that so many people not a new realization, but I realized it again, so many people are going through the. Emotions, like we as a society are so disconnected from our bodies, from our energy, from all these things that we love to talk about, right? And it had me thinking like, how, how can we share? How can we get people to understand and reflect and reconnect with that? And you're so right? That conversations are not being had those reflective and let's say, I'd like to say expansive types of conversations are not part of everyday life for the most part.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 10:38
Yes, and that, and maybe that's okay. Certainly that's okay. And also, I do think the more we're able to share, and this doesn't mean you have to have this conversation with everybody, you know, when you say hello with someone at the grocery store. And also, life, what did you meditate on this morning? And also, kind of, that's fun. You know, we talk about the sports and all the games and what happened, and why? Why is not asking about meditation? And did you notice anything in your meditation practice today? Why isn't that a topic we can't at least with closer friends and and maybe closer friends are having this conversation, and it's just not hitting the outskirts of the acquaintance level friendships, or what a cooler talk says I'm going to call them. And I think that, and maybe that that's the kind of the next place we need to go in that taking this time for yourself, to look whether it's three minutes a day, five minutes, 10 minutes, 30 seconds to just check in, what am I seeing for myself? And to me, the question is so important, when we're talking about this topic of hiding from yourself, what am I seeing for me? What do I want?
Mary Clavieres 12:00
Yeah, yeah, because so often we also, again, going back to the noise we we get stuck in the noise and the overwhelm and everything that we hear from other people. I know, for me, I and I, we've probably talked about this before, but moving to France and where we live now is a lot more let's say I'm closer to nature. I go for my walks every day. It's a lot more laid back. There's less noise versus coming from the New York metro area. And while it doesn't mean that everyone needs to move in order to quiet that noise, but it helped me to recognize for me that the noise was not helping me to really see myself. I was taking on other people's energy, other people's stuff, and not really exploring for myself. And I think when you're caught up in that trap of kind of running or spinning in circles in that way, it's really hard to see what you do want, and it can be uncomfortable. Even I know when I first started asking myself those types of questions, kind of thinking about, what do I really want? It felt well, it felt a lot of things. Sometimes it felt scary. Sometimes it felt like, who am I kidding? Why, you know, why am I even going to think this? I'm wasting my time. Why am I going to wish for this? It's not going to happen. You know, like all of those negative voices that make you doubt yourself, and then it's and then it can be easier to just stay in the hiding and stay, yeah, stay in the hiding and not be seen because it's hard. Sometimes it can feel hard to show up for yourself, don't you think,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 13:57
I absolutely think yes, and I I I'm a big proponent of this, these questions, asking yourself these questions, and my family indulges me quite often.
Mary Clavieres 14:15
Your family is amazing
Elizabeth Guilbeault 14:19
conversations that I'm sure they would love not to have. And I early on in in my relationship and marriage, I put up a poster board. We had two closet doors, and I put up a poster on each door, one for my partner, one for me, of what do we want? What are we creating, and what do we need? And I would add things on the poster. And these aren't wants. This wasn't like I want. I mean, not that you couldn't put, like, a trip to Barbados or whatever on it, but this is like, what do you want in terms of life fulfillment? That was sort of my. Aim, yeah, yeah. And I, to this day, we joke, because the poster for my partner was blank for the for months, it was up, and I finally, I said, All right, I'm going to take this down, because this is clearly not a place that you want to step into right now, which is fine in a different way, not that he didn't want to but and also it wasn't a fit at the moment, so I took it down, and we will talk about that. Over the years, we've talked about that because often acknowledging and saying what you want is so scary. And I remember doing this and mentioning to my dad and him saying, knowing what you want is one of the hardest things, and I remember thinking really and yet now fast forward, yes, acknowledging what you want, saying it out loud, takes courage, even if It just is, I want what I already have. Because somehow, somehow, I feel like there's a messaging that we need to be more or want more, or Yes. And so even just owning what it is that you have and are creating, acknowledging that this is what I want, can be intimidating.
Mary Clavieres 16:26
Yeah, and that wanting more feels especially strong in American culture. I definitely don't feel it as much in France, probably for a variety of reasons that we don't have to go into or anything. But I, I feel that there's a lot more pressure in the US to have to want more, and if you don't want more, there's something wrong with you. Yes,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 16:57
we are a third chakra country, right? We are doing, what are you doing productivity? Do more country? Oh, I
Mary Clavieres 17:06
never thought about it like that, but yes,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 17:13
so it's in the water.
Mary Clavieres 17:19
So yeah, I think that's I mean, so I'd say the first step think we're agreeing, we’re agreeing on all these things, surprise, surprise. But the first step is coming to terms with realizing, in a way, if you are even hiding, if an aspect of you is hiding. And chances are, if whoever's listening to this episode. If you're listening right now, there probably is a part of you that's hiding, and I have to say for myself, I don't know about you, Elizabeth, but for myself, I'm definitely not completely out there either. It's been a process for me, and I have definitely grown more and shared my voice over the years, and yes. Now I host a podcast, which I love to do, but there are still parts of me that are growing and changing and evolving, of course, because we always do. And I don't know if I would ever feel that my voice is complete, but I certainly don't feel that right now. It's a process that I've been observing and but really the first part is recognizing feeling that you want to change something and that you're tired of the hiding in a way,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 18:33
yes, yeah, being willing to just ask that question, is there parts of me that are hiding? What do I want to develop? What does that look like for me? And yeah, I don't. I think that we are always growing and changing and not I mean, I joke when I'm the day I'm complete is the day that I take the next step to the next, you know, out of this world,
19:06
the next, please, yep.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 19:10
So I think it's definitely a journey and a process, and we're all discovering new things every day. I think it's, it's that willingness, like you mentioned that first step, the willingness to just ask the question, be curious, and then what do you how you go from there, whether, whether it's through meditation, whether it's through you mentioned your walks, whether it's through having a conversation with a friend, getting together and just saying, Hey, I'm feeling like, I just want to, want to call it an inventory, kind of inventory, how things are. Could you help me with this? What do you see about me? Doesn't have to be a solo i. Uh, endeavor.
Mary Clavieres 20:00
That's true. I actually did ask that to some of my friends. Once, I asked them what skills or things they saw in me that looked so easy and effortless, because part of me it also it's just sometimes your biggest strengths are the things that are the hardest for you to see, because they come so naturally. And I think a lot of the times we're programmed, or we expect that everything has to be hard and we need to work hard in order to earn, in order to achieve, and actually, a lot of the times, the things that we're really meant to bring into the world are things that actually come very easily to us. And if it's hard to see that, you can ask other people. So I love that suggestion,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 20:58
yes, I that life is hard thing. I love that you brought that up. I think I drive my kids nuts because their friends will be over. Somebody will say something, and I will say, life isn't actually meant to be hard. Just a little, just a little heads up, and my friends are like, Would you stop telling my friends that? Would they don't want to hear that? They don't. Nobody cares. Mom, like, well, you know what? I think it's important. Yes,
Mary Clavieres 21:28
you know what that kid is going to remember that 10 years from now in some random scenario, and they're going to be like, Wait, actually, yeah, no, this doesn't have to be hard.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 21:39
That's what I say that, I think you guys, my kids, you guys, are used to someone saying to you, oh, it doesn't have to be hard. That doesn't mean you don't have to work towards some things. That doesn't mean you don't have to put on a little effort to learn the piano solo or memorize the lines for the play or practice some extra math. It doesn't mean that you don't show up and put forth some intention, right? And yet it doesn't have, you don't have to climb a mountain every single day, exactly. So then, when you've discovered it, talked to people, maybe gotten curious and asked yourself and identified something. I guess then the question is, what do you do from there?
Mary Clavieres 22:33
Oh, well, in my case, of course, like because, because I'm the overthinker that I am, any overthinkers Listening to this will totally understand this, you know, okay, they told me these things. I'm like, Yeah, but those aren't really it. I was like, I don't think so. I need to keep working this brain and figure out what the real things are,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 23:00
and how'd that work for you?
Mary Clavieres 23:01
So hilarious. You know, eventually my brain got tired, and eventually I did recognize, I did recognize some of the things the other thing, though, is that, you know, we come here with so many gifts. So then it becomes a question of which ones are the ones that you really want to focus on. So if I'm talking, for example, through a lens of business, I had asked my friends which things come most easily to me, or the skills that I have in terms of work, right and career. And then it's a matter of deciding which ones of those do you want to actually bring forward and spend more time with? Because you can be good at things. You can be really good at things that you don't necessarily want to do all the time either, right? So just because they come easily to you, like the example, I like to use a lot for myself well. So I'm definitely a systems and process type of person. I have an engineering degree. It comes very naturally to me to think about things in a structured way. And I'm also really good at a lot of tech stuff.
Mary Clavieres 24:20
I’m not a prodigy or anything, but I can get around the basics, or I like to problem solve if I have some kind of problem in my family, and probably even some of my husband's family, they come to me if there's a question, right? But that doesn't mean that that's the thing that I really want to do and put, as you know, my face forward in my business or whatever. So I'm not someone that's going to go fix everybody's websites, even though I can do that and I do. Stuff for my own and again, very loosely, I am not. I am not. I'm using this example, and I'm like, geez. Don't know if this is the right example, but just because I can do it doesn't mean that I want to do it all the time, or doesn't mean that I want to do that for my career. Let's say so. Then it was a matter of kind of sifting through the different things and kind of sitting with each of them and feeling into them and seeing okay. What are the things? It was really more like a springboard, a jumping off point for me to then see okay. What are the things that feel right to me or don't or finding paying attention to my joy as I do those things. Are they things that I enjoy doing? And that's kind of what started things off for me. Let's say
Elizabeth Guilbeault 25:50
I love that, and I agree that just because you're good at it doesn't mean it has to be your everything. And it's really powerful to even have that awareness or acknowledge that I can be good at this, and also,
Mary Clavieres 26:08
well, I realized that from my own like agony and bitterness of doing it too many times and wondering why I was not happy to
Elizabeth Guilbeault 26:21
which is so powerful, because a lot of people do are in the same position, I'm sure are good at something. It gets acknowledged, it gets validated. So I guess this is my path. I guess this is what I have to do.
Mary Clavieres 26:38
Yeah, right. There's probably so many people like that, and so consider this the message of if you are listening and you are one of those people, it does not have to be that way. You can choose something different, trust me,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 26:51
and you can still use those skill sets, right? Of course, I'm going to pick on the the accountant, the systems and thinking from an accounting perspective, you may have done really well in accounting, and you ended up in accounting, and now you're an accountant and it and you just thought you have to do this. And yet, maybe it's not the work you're good at. It's easy for you. Maybe it's just the environment. Maybe it's it's instead of working for someone else, you work for yourself, or instead of working in the East Coast, you move to the West Coast right, like there's there. It doesn't necessarily mean as you do take this path and start looking at what's hiding from you. Is there anything that bubbling up that you are curious about exploring when talking about this, what do I want? Who am I? It doesn't mean you have to change everything, or that the profession is wrong. There could be aspects that really, really work and some tweaking that needs to happen.
Mary Clavieres 27:59
Yes, 1,000% it's not an all or nothing. You have to, like, burn your whole life down exactly, and think that that's going to give you the changes that you're looking for,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 28:10
and yet also be open to, oh, maybe if this part of me, if I had more space to express this, might find a little more joy in doing this work, or have this to look forward to, or get to do this, I'm really conscious of the have to. We we have, I don't really, technically have this, and yet in my house, it's when someone says, I have to. Often, someone will chime in. Get to, you get to. So nobody, nobody says, I have to go to work. It's, I get to go to work. I get to go to school. So if we catch anyone saying this, it's our version of a swear jar. I guess it's the you get to. And it really even that phrasing changes how you experience something
Mary Clavieres 29:04
so 1,000% Yeah, noticing
Elizabeth Guilbeault 29:07
those little subtle things you can tweak so many little things as you start looking at this to reclaim your power, reclaim what it is That makes you sing, that makes you feel great.
Mary Clavieres 29:24
Another word you saying the have to and get to, made me think of another word. Because, as I'm studying human design more, I've talked to you about this. I'm studying from a woman, Jamie Palmer. She's amazing, and she says all the time. Notice when you say the word should she calls it shoulding yourself. Yes, I do as well. And if you, if you are telling yourself you should do this or you should do that, have a check in and see is that what you really want to do or not. Chances are for the. Most part, if you're saying should, then it's not something you really want to do. And I've caught myself a lot with that again, if we use the work examples of how to build my business, oh, I should do this. Or, you know, you can follow any of the latest trends and insert them there. I should be on Tiktok, or I should do this with YouTube, or whatever, whatever. And the minute you do that, it's it's a point to reflect and say, but is that really what I want to do? Is that how I want to show up in my business or run my business? Most of the time it's not, and there's really something better that's more aligned for you somewhere else.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 30:47
You know what I'm going to say? Agree? I think so. I am with her. I should is also a word that is not commonly accepted in this house. And same with try. Let's not try. Just do it. Just jump in. Go for it. You got this? I
Mary Clavieres 31:10
like that one too.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 31:12
Let's go for it.
Mary Clavieres 31:12
Jesus, whole list. I feel like list.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 31:16
I do have a list. We can have a podcast on the words, energetic words to avoid.
Mary Clavieres 31:21
Oh, I like that. I'm going to take a note. I like that.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 31:29
So, yeah, as you see it, you identify it, whether it's you yourself see it, whether someone else identifies it for you, you take some steps to maybe reclaim a part of you, yep, and see yourself a little more. And it's really fun when you start seeing yourself and acknowledging, oh, I want to do this. This feels really good to me. I want to do this. What pops up in your life around it, like, you know what? I feel like biking more. I just want to go ride my bike, and then all of a sudden, you walk into a library and there's a poster that says a bike event this Saturday. You know, it's funny to start noticing when you're on your path, what pops up in your space to validate where you're headed, what you're doing.
Mary Clavieres 32:22
Oh, yeah, paying attention to the signs, and I've noticed them more easily now than I did before. It's really just paying attention to the world around you. And you can see so many things,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 32:35
so many things just and opening up. So when you step into the space of looking at what am I? What am I hiding for myself? What do I want to see? What do I want you? Unconsciously opens up these doors or windows, these little pockets to pop in, and it can be so powerful and fun,
Mary Clavieres 32:59
so fun. So, so fun.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 33:01
I guess I say fun. I have been accused of not quite understanding the definition of fun. So fun.
Mary Clavieres 33:13
It's funny you say that because so actually, I was going to bring up another point of something that's supported me a lot with Reclaiming my power. Has also been traveling. I travel a lot, but I actually started going on retreats, like with retreats with friends. One of my amazing friends, Sarah Naya Solei, she's she does retreats all over the world, pretty much, and I went to one in Hawaii one year, and it was so supportive of, basically my process of finding more of myself. And sometimes when you're going through these deep, let's say, layers of pain or hurt or other things that you're examining in your life, right? Because you do want to grow. You do want to stop hiding. You do want to reclaim your power and know yourself. When you go through these layers and meet these things, it can obviously feel very hard and uncomfortable and then I always have to remind myself that, you know, I would say like, oh, I'm a glutton for punishment, because I keep coming back for more of this transformational work. And do you know that song, the Rihanna song? Well, it's Rihanna and Calvin Harris, this is what you came for.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 34:43
Probably do and campaign. It's like a dance song.
Mary Clavieres 34:46
Yeah, that's okay. It's, it's like a, it's a dance song. There is a whole thing with Taylor Swift, because she's, she actually wrote it, and in the beginning, nobody knew that she wrote it anyway. There's like, whole other story. But it's a it's a song, and it's like, Baby, this is what you are, you know, yes, yes. We'll see if I end up cutting that out. I've never sang on the podcast,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 35:12
great. I don't, definitely don't cut that out. That was great.
Mary Clavieres 35:17
And so this song is like a mantra. Every time I'm like, feeling like, at some kind of a low or a hard point, I'm like, This is what you came for. Yes,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 35:32
that's so good. So even
Mary Clavieres 35:33
though that's not, you know, if you listen to more of the song, that's not what it's about. But for me, it's like, it's a mantra that gets me through those hard moments. Yes,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 35:43
I have a similar song. I don't I'm not going to know who. I won't be able to come up by the but there's a lyric in there that says, Let's not make it harder than it has to be. And that that was what I that was a summer of that was my mantra for a whole summer. We were I just had a fourth baby. We were doing an addition, figuring out things. And I remember multiple times same, like you, let's not make this harder than it has to be. It's all going to figure itself out. It's okay. Let's not make it harder than it has to be.
Mary Clavieres 36:23
Yes, so, so,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 36:26
so those are so good. PSA, yes. Find your song and think through the crow,
Mary Clavieres 36:35
yes, yes. Because, like the uncovering, the coming out of hiding, and then also the reclaiming, like there's, there's just so many bumps along the way, yes, and I also heard recently, I forget where I heard it, but they were talking about animals and insects that shed their skin, you know, like A snake or something, and how it's so incredibly uncomfortable for them to do that, right? And it doesn't happen until, obviously the end, where they really, like, can't fit in it anymore, and they have to break out of it. And it was just this little story of like, yeah, to remember that your old skin isn't going to fit, it's going to feel uncomfortable, and then you kind of shed it for something new.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 37:24
That's so great.
Mary Clavieres 37:27
Okay, where I heard that, but yes, it made me think of that too. I'm like all the other animals are doing it. We can do this with our brains too.
Elizabeth Guilbeault 37:35
Absolutely. That's brilliant. Love it.
Mary Clavieres 37:42
Well. Well, Elizabeth, this has been fun. Do you have anything else you want to add any extra little thoughts or points before we close out for today?
Elizabeth Guilbeault 37:58
Go for it. Be willing and make it fun. Have fun with it. Have fun with looking at yourself and see what's hiding, see what you want to explore and reclaim some space for you.
Mary Clavieres 38:14
Yes, we're taking back our power and our space. I love that so so good. Have fun no matter what your definition of fun is,
Elizabeth Guilbeault 38:25
exactly. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks,
Mary Clavieres 38:29
Elizabeth. Thank you to everyone listening today. If you'd like to learn more, you can find Elizabeth at all the links in the show notes. And as she mentioned, everyday energy. We are so happy that you hear that you're here, that you tuned in. Please feel free to share this episode with a friend who you feel may need to hear it, and thanks so much for listening. We'll talk to you next week.
