#61: Intentions, Energy, and Showing Up When Life Feels Hard with Elizabeth Guilbeault

Elizabeth Guilbeault, energy reader extraordinaire, is back on the podcast and we’re trying something a little different this time. Instead of a more formal interview, this episode is a conversation between friends. 

Elizabeth and I chat about setting intentions, managing energy and how we show up (or don’t!) when things feel hard. Elizabeth also had a family move in the last couple of years and we talk about what navigating a big move looks like. 

I love Elizabeth’s energy and the wisdom she shares. I hope you enjoy this conversation!

Find Elizabeth here:

Website: www.everydayenergywithelizabeth.com  

New Program: https://everydayenergywithelizabeth.com/intuitiontoreality

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-guilbeault-3b16942/  

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Episode Transcript

Mary Clavieres  00:05

Hello, and welcome to change from within. I'm your host, Mary Clavieres. This podcast is here to help you uncover your unique path to living your most aligned life. And today, I have an incredibly exciting episode. Well, it hasn't happened yet. It's happening now I'm recording the intro at the same time. And I'll start with our guest. So Elizabeth Guilbeau, is back on the podcast. I'm so excited to have her here. And I asked her to come back in a new series that we're going to do around talking about energy and life and navigating all the things in a different way. And before we get into our conversation, I wanted to share with you two that we were deciding what to talk about, actually, Elizabeth just asked me how I was doing. And I started talking and like saying all these things, and then I started crying. And it was like, Oh my gosh, things feel so intense. I didn't realize I was holding that in. And it helped to lead to what we're going to talk about today. But I'm saying all of that, to show you that this conversation that we're about to have, that's going to be so magical, I can feel it is a peek behind the curtain, if you will, a way to get some real discussion and conversation about what's going on in people's lives and what things may look like there's times that feel great, there's times that feel hard. Today, we were both feeling some of that challenge. So we wanted to talk a little bit about that. And, and just be really real in the conversations of when you're navigating these hard and challenging times. And also, you want to live your life in a higher vibration and find that joy and that flow and that ease with a frequency that feels good to you. That has you really knowing deep within yourself that you're on your correct path in your most aligned way. So we're talking about all of that today. And so I just wanted to preface that before I say Hi, Elizabeth. So Hi, Elizabeth,

Elizabeth Guilbeault  02:19

Thank you for coming on the show. Hello, and thank you for having me.

Mary Clavieres  02:23

It's gonna be so great. I'm just Yeah, it's a little bit of a different style that we're trying here. And I'm really excited about it. Because yeah, there's no one I'd rather have this very open, honest conversation with than you. 

Elizabeth Guilbeault  02:37

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that a lot. Yeah, I'm so happy to be here.

Mary Clavieres  02:42

Yeah, I'm happy to have you. So okay, so we're talking about when things are hard, basically. So yes.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  02:51

yes. And I'm a big fan of crying. I'm a big fan of letting it out and promote that. Actively, I would say in my life, we have a saying in my house. When someone's feeling like things are hard or going through something, someone will inevitably say, let the tears flow baby. And it started as a joke, because I mentioned it to one of my daughters was having a rough day. I said, just let it go. Let the tears flow baby. And now it's become a joke, partly because my kids making fun of me for saying it that way. And now it's it's become a way to add some humor and also let it flow. It's so so good. Such a good clearing and healing. So I appreciate that. You could share that. And we could be here. Thank

Mary Clavieres  03:40

you. Thank you for sharing that actually, it made me also realize that a lot of my life, I think I did have a lot of shame around crying. And now I mean, I cry whenever I cry, it's fine. You know, my family's used to it. My husband's used to it. But I think also I probably grew up at a time and there's probably still a lot of people like this where tears make them uncomfortable. So then it's a lot of stop crying, why are you crying? Kind of minimizing the feelings? You know? 100% it's beautiful that you're telling your kids something different and that there can be like a joke or something light hearted about it. Because really, yeah, we do have to get it out. And one of the ways to release it is crying.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  04:21

Yes. It's so cathartic and clearing and healing. And in general. I think when things are hard, it's tough to talk about. It's it's not what people want to hear around the watercooler. Right. And, and yet it's so so helpful to be able to share that space and have those conversations and be honest and open and authentic. i One of the biggest compliments I've received in my life, doing this work and teaching meditation, teaching techniques. Working with people is students and clients come back to me and said it's so helpful to hear Things are still hard sometimes for you that you still, you still yell, sometimes you still get angry, sometimes you still get frustrated sometimes. I had a student told me one time that they thought that I just floated around my house and did the dishes with the wave of a hand and everything was so easy, and it's so easy to get that image about people. And also, it's so helpful sometimes to remember that no, even the best of us the best meditators the most, quote, enlightened, still have hard days and stuff, tough things that they have to go through.

Mary Clavieres  05:36

Yeah. And honestly, I find that I connect and resonate so much more, when people are very honest. And when they are showing those hard things. Because like, social media is usually the highlight reels, right? Yes.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  05:51

Yes. Yes. And being able to be honest with ourselves, as well, when things are hard. Yeah, I did an exercise. In the new year, I had a couple questions that I decided to ask myself, I was doing a training and just thinking about questions asked them and I put myself through the exercise as well, on the along the lines of streams of consciousness just to, like, jot down the first thing that comes up. And one of the questions was, what was the theme of last year? And I shocked myself? Because I wrote hard. I know, I, first of all, I, I think when we think we're designing something, we think we might have a little more insight, because we're the ones designing the training or the class. And so when I decided, we're just gonna go through this and ask myself these questions. I couldn't believe that's what I wrote. Right. And it was so helpful for myself to realize, yeah, last year fought really hard. And it was a huge kind of awakenings for me to be able to validate that and have that information. Because even I think I was a little bit in denial. Yeah.

Mary Clavieres  07:03

Yeah. It's almost like Sometimes, certain things have to kind of like push us to see it in a different way. Because when you're so in it, sometimes it's it's also hard to see.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  07:16

Yes. And I think sometimes we diminish hard, because maybe we think it's not that bad. Or someone may be going through something worse, is that the best word? I'm not sure. That is maybe more challenging. And so we feel like, my heart is not that hard. So get over it. And yet, we all are here on a different path. We all are working through different goals, different strategies, different learnings. Neither is better or worse than the other. It's all different. It's all coming together as we need it to. And to be able to have our own path, our own information. Let ourselves honor where we are on that journey is so important.  

Mary Clavieres  08:04

I agree. Yeah, it took me a long time to die. I've worked on that one for a while. Yeah. Comparison, or also like chopping down my feelings, thinking, basically comparing it to someone else's, and saying, Oh, mine aren't that bad. So I shouldn't feel that way. But, yeah, I'm also on my journey. And all feelings are valid. There's like a spectrum for everything, right? It's kind of how I see it, but it's giving voice to what you're going through and recognizing that things can be hard. What I'm trying to, to learn and practice and observe now is, is around, okay, observing that I'm going through something hard, processing those feelings, moving through those feelings, and also paying attention to how I can get back into that higher vibration of where I want to be. Not that I can always be there, but where I want to be more regularly. And how I can, yeah, shift things with myself. So feel the feelings, and understand with them and sit with them, but then also moving in or move on to that other place where I know I want to be more often to Yes.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  09:18

And honoring the timing, to me as a big piece of it. That if you rush through the hard or rush through the discomfort in the long run and may not serve you so like you mentioned, if you can honor it, see it recognize it. And yes, then obviously, I'm a big fan of meditation. Use some tools from your meditation practice or your own self care routines to move into that next vibration to maybe shift where you want to move out of and yet also honoring that space as serving a purpose. Yeah, and that can be challenging because when it But it's hard. Most people want to avoid that

Mary Clavieres  10:03

space. Right? Right. They want to kind of bury that and move on. But when you bury it, it comes back. Yes, louder and harder.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  10:11

Yes. More incompetent. Sometimes there's Yes. And there's sometimes there's a message in it that we need to hear. And if we don't give her that space to hear or get that message, that that whisper becomes normal volume, and then it becomes the gal and then it becomes a screen if we haven't paid attention. Yeah.

Mary Clavieres  10:30

Yeah. And I was telling you, even right, before we started recording that, well, I was sitting with this realization that we've lived in France now for two years, we just hit our two year anniversary of being here. And you've moved to so we can probably talk about this in the context of moving. And there's definitely been ups and downs. And it's very interesting, and there's so much learning in there. It's such a deep transformative process, especially for me to move to a different country, and different culture and all of these things. And in the spectrum of the world, the US and France are not necessarily so different, right? They're both westernized. But at the same time, I've been feeling the differences these past couple of years. And I'm finally starting to have this feeling maybe it's also because it's spring, and I've been doing so much inner work. And I don't know, the timing of it, like you said, is coming together in a different way that I feel like, okay, now's the time to be kind of coming out of this shell that I've been in. Because I've been processing and navigating and adapting, and all of this stuff, you know, focusing on my family, and all of these kinds of things that now it feels like, there's a new energy to it, something new is coming, something is shifting, and this conversation is helping it a lot. Because it's, it's giving voice to it and saying, Okay, I'm, I'm ready for something different, I'm ready for something new, even if it feels hard to also get myself back out there. Because that's also part of what I was sharing with you is that it feels like, I've been away in a sense. And now I'm coming back. And then I have all these things around impostor syndrome, or, you know, is anyone gonna like the work that I'm doing or that kind of stuff. And I'm trying simultaneously to, to be paying attention to how I create because I want to create from a place that's a higher vibration, and I want to, to do work that, that I feel so aligned with, because I know when I feel that alignment in me, as I'm creating, that's what's going to ripple out into the world as I put that into the world. And so it's, there's like all these different sides to it. And you've moved to also so I'm curious your perspective on it, we can kind of talk about how it Yeah, how it's been moving through for both of us, because I know you shared some of that earlier, too. But it's these kinds of big changes, big transitions. They initiate big transformations to

Elizabeth Guilbeault  13:08

100% agree. And as you're talking, I was thinking, all the subtle ways that we're not even always conscious of. Yeah, right. Just like, get the morning routine. It's just different. It's a different closet. It's a different showers a different the little things that you've gotten so used to the water pressure, and even I'm a little more than a year after moving and I still like oh, yeah, the water pressure is not the same here. i It's still, most days I don't think about it, and yet, more often than I'm like, Oh, right. Yeah. Ferg forgotten here, I am still young. And that those little subtle changes. It sounds silly sometimes. And yet, that is a ripple that there's a difference. And it's an adjustment and we kind of forget we we have so much of our bodies, I feel like on a daily basis, we just between working and schedules and running around. We're not really a culture that works on the mentality of you worked for an hour now take a five minute break you write you've done all this now, honor this and relax. We kind of pride ourselves on Go Go Go Busy, busy, busy. Yeah, and all those little subtle differences impact you in in different ways that if we don't ever stop to recognize, oh, yeah, that is a change. And it's okay to honor that and it's okay to adjust to it. And it's okay if it takes two years to adjust and to fully be in this new space, because it's a big deal. And yet we I think we think While I'm here now, just change just be here, just adjust and give ourselves that time and be gentle in that process. It makes such a difference. Yeah, completely

Mary Clavieres  15:11

Agree. We're just going to be going back and forth saying I complete.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  15:16

Which is lovely. And yeah, it's great. It's great.

Mary Clavieres  15:20

Oh my gosh, the showers are so weird here.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  15:24

Right? It's the little things. Yeah. Oh,

Mary Clavieres  15:29

yeah. It throws things off. And like when you're used to one thing, you know, when you're used to things a certain way, and they become creature comforts, and then you move somewhere else. I my whole family has definitely felt that for different things. And it's same. Sometimes I, I wonder, Oh, my talking about this too much. You know, it's like, okay, we moved here two years ago. So get over it. Now you moved. It's done right to what you were saying. And so I feel very self conscious sometimes talking about moving. So I'm like, Yeah, I've been here two years now. So it shouldn't feel hard. But I also think that whenever you make that kind of big life change, there's so many ups and downs, it, it can keep coming back, it can keep showing up in different ways. And yeah, with time, maybe some of those things feel a little less. But then other things, maybe, maybe they don't feel less, maybe they feel really present. And that's okay too.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  16:36

I do agree. I do. I am smiling thinking about all this. That is so good to talk about and honor and others have gone through a change, and maybe have expected themselves to adjust more quickly to give yourself that grace and a break and honor that, oh, this, this is harder, this does feel different, or my body still not adjusted to this. I, I just had this conversation. Two weeks ago, not even to my partner, I said, I just still cannot figure out our meal plan or weekly. I don't know. And I said, I feel so silly saying this. Because we didn't move out of this country. We're in the same country. I still can't figure out which grocery store to go to regularly. When I that's it's so silly. And yet, I'm finding those a Wednesday or Thursday night, you know, and I was like, I don't know what to make for dinner I, what did we use to eat? I can't even like, how can we do this? So we laughed about it, and then figured out something I don't remember what we ended up cooking. And also was, it was one of those. I'm still figuring this out. It's been over a year, and I still don't feel like I have my routines. And then I have to remind myself that those routines that we created before we moved, also took years to develop. Yeah, so

Mary Clavieres  18:09

yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's it. We don't have the same community that we had in the US. And then I have to remind yourself, well, I've known a lot of my friends in the US I've known for at least 20 years. So I kind of find those same friendships in two years here.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  18:30

It's not possible. Yes. Yes. And I, I love to hide, which is often funny. Because I, my preference is to blend in to kind of just be part of a crowd, just notice and not not be the one out. And even though I am an extrovert, and I love being part of things like podcasts and you know, having a business and wrote a book, all those fun things that kind of make me stand out a little bit. And also, my preference is kind of just to be in the mix. And it's meeting people who just talked about friendships. It's tough to step out and say hello, and when you're moving to in the community, a lot of people lived here where we moved, a lot of people have grown up here lived here. Generations. And it's so interesting to me energetically to look at that and notice that and notice how I'm feeling as someone that is an extrovert doesn't shy away from necessarily speaking up or talking to others. And yet, sometimes I just want to sit on the couch and not have to put myself out in that space.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  19:58

Honor all those things. Is that in of itself to honor those ups and downs? Honestly, it can be a full time job, just managing your energy and your ups and downs and your changes and all that you're going through in a lifetime.

Mary Clavieres  20:13

Seriously, not

Elizabeth Guilbeault  20:14

to mention that most of us also have a work and take care of other people and pick care of other people or animals, and gardens and all the things. It's no wonder a lot of people say, I'm tired. Yeah,

Mary Clavieres  20:30

yeah, exactly. And like, at the same time, it's, yeah, I don't want to live a life where I'm always saying I'm tired. And I don't want to live a life where I feel like I'm always focused on the negative things. So it's, it's really tricky, because you want to honor all of that. And you also want to, you know, you want to step into those higher vibrations in higher frequencies and feel good and feel really energized by life. Right? I, I do think that moving here, and you move to a more rural area, and so did I. So we're outside of a major city in France, but we're not in the city. So we're kind of like, in the French version of the suburbs. And so there is more space, and I can go on walks, I go on a walk in nature every day. So I there's a lot of benefit to where we moved and how my life is now that I can connect more to these things, I can connect more to the world around me and feel really good about it. So I know that that exists. But it's just yeah, it's just it feels like a moving target. Right? Because it's always yes.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  21:47

Yes, 100% I agree. And I we also miss much more rural, we lived on a dirt road now. We can look out at trees and trees and trees. And we do have neighbors we do do live on somewhat of a neighborhood, there's nine houses on the street. Not like right on top of each other, though. So it's, it's nice that we have some space. And it is lovely to be able to sit on the porch and look at look out and see the mountains. And it's I love driving around because the views are gorgeous. And I every day, I'm known in the car, my kids have like, started to take a tally of how many times we're driving somewhere and I say, look at that, look at that view. Yes, become a joke. And yet, it's so breathtaking. And I think I am so thankful to be here and have this and be able to experience this view and this space. It's lovely. So absolutely, there's that part that is the ups and downs and managing and new routines and honoring that space. And then there's all these joys that come with it. And to me, it's it's not about good or bad or negative or positive, it's more about honoring the moment and being able to be in that space. And also notice that the next moment could equally be as spectacular, even though the moment before wasn't as spectacular. And that that's okay, it's okay to ride with that flow and move in and out of that. And one of the easiest ways to me to change that vibration is to really honor it and recognize it say hello to it, because as soon as I can do that, it seems like it paves the way for the vibration to shift or my energy to to move and, quote, higher vibration to come in or me to necessarily come in access it more. Because I really believe that we all have an ability to move and change vibrations. It's more about our willingness and looking at and, and accessing it creating space for it 1,000%

Mary Clavieres  23:57

or so all and I actually started experimenting with this recently with my work because I want to be creating from that from that higher vibration in that frequency. That's, that feels really good, right? I want to create from there. But I don't necessarily always feel like well, I don't know, maybe some people can but I can't just say okay, now I'm gonna go sit and do my work. So I need to be at a high vibration, you know, and I also have kids in the life and everything so maybe I feel very high vibration, it's not a time where I can sit and do work. So I've been experimenting and now I've been kind of adding ritual to to my work time and kind of yes sitting down and I mean it can look different to different people but I light a candle or I spray a little like fragrance, you know like air fragrance thing or I kind of set up a little station I'm by my desk and I and I talk to myself about what my intention is and what I want to create right now. And what I'm doing there basically, in hopes that that also like, shifts the energy and changes for things for me. And actually, it's been working really well. It's like, kind of like a trick, but not really a trick, you know, like, to really, to really allow myself to sit and I guess it kind of goes with what you were saying about the awareness piece of like, okay, I'm putting on awareness around the fact that now I do want to create, so what can that look like, and then kind of experimenting with that, and it's been, yeah, I've been really happy with it. Actually.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  25:45

I love that. I am a huge fan of the self pep talk. My daughter was having a rough day, a couple weeks ago, and I, I sat there, I actually was having a tough time, very similar to getting into the space of creating, I wanted to do something, it's been on my mind create something, I've been working on this, meditating on that looking at it. And it gets time to just put the pen to paper, if you will. And I sat down, I, I love what you mentioned about candle, and I use a lot of potential oil. So I had my essential oil next to me, I had my space. And I still felt like going for 10 mile run was more appealing than in my heart wanted to get done, right. And so I, I shared with my daughter, I had to give myself a little pep talk. And I talked myself through it, and then all of a sudden, it was flowing. And I two hours went by and I didn't finish the whole thing. And yet also I made significant progress and actually felt like, again, that vibration, I shifted the vibration, I'd moved the needle. And this was something I wanted to do. Right. That's that's the other piece of it's like, I want to do this, I see this i What's the challenge? What's the barrier? And sometimes we can figure out what the barriers and sometimes we can and either way, to me, I'm less concerned about the why in that instance, and worry about? Can I clear it and move through it and and do the thing that I've been wanting to do? Can I clear it? So to me, the self Pep Talk is such a great tool that I don't know if a lot of people talk about that, that ability, or that tool,

Mary Clavieres  27:28

I talk to myself on my, on my walks. And I feel less worried about it. Because most of the time Well, nobody really cares anyway. And I walk places where there aren't a lot of people and also, I'm talking to myself in English, and not that they don't know what I'm saying. But I pretend that they don't, because a lot of people right around where we are don't also speak English. So it's like, an extra place. Yeah, I'm just gonna keep talking to myself, doesn't matter. Awesome.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  27:52

I love it. But it can change every Yes, it changes, the whole vibration, I can change the whole day. Yep.

Mary Clavieres  28:00

And I kind of think that like, when we're on this path, and we're so aware of our transformation, we're so aware of our challenges. And we know the mind can also play tricks on us. There's also a piece of like, you need to find those ways to work through it. If you want to reach your next goal, whatever it is, and I don't mean it in like a hustle or a push kind of way. We're always growing and learning and evolving. So in order for us to show up and do these different things, we need to be aware of the fact that we're growing and evolving. And so it might require us to try something different. And I don't know, I'm just I've been feeling into that a lot lately that like, it's kind of like that What Got You Here Won't Get You There type of thing. Because I have an awareness that I want to change something so then something in the way I show up has to change. Do you know what I mean? I

Elizabeth Guilbeault  29:00

do. That brings up what you mentioned earlier, getting back, going getting back out there? Can I have that that idea of going back to something that maybe felt really good in the past? Come back to that. And we are always growing and changing. And I'm conscious that I'm here now I'm in present time now. It's not so much about going back to what was five years ago or 10 years ago. It's about having that information and bring it into present time, which may look very different. Now. I may still be doing a very similar business or wanting to create very similar programs, and yet, it's different and if I can honor that space, and remind myself that I'm not trying to go back to that what I did, I'm taking that and bringing it forward. Right? Everything's shifting, everything's leveling up.

Mary Clavieres  29:53

Exactly. And it's, it's almost like in those times where you know you're leveling up. It can and feel harder to do it like, I don't know, your mind has so many more. It has like sneakier ways to keep you where you are. Right? So I'm noticing it now because I'm, I was telling you before I'm working on a new program and, and part of me was like, doubting myself with the program and thinking, Oh, am I? What am I saying here? I haven't, I feel like I haven't been around for a while. So then is anyone even gonna want to sign up? And but even though I know, it's amazing, and it's all the things that have changed my life, and it's like, you still have those doubts. And for me, I know, I still have those doubts. And also, in order to continue on my path of what I feel for myself deep down, and what I came here to do, I need to work through those doubts. I just, I need to work through them. And it's like, this is one of those times where I'm aware of it. And I just need to work through those doubts. And okay, maybe there's not that many people in the program, the people that are there are going to be the ones that need to be served at that time. And I will iterate and iterate. So it feels weird sometimes. Because yeah, because I did used to do so many different things with my business. And then I slow down, especially during this time in the move. And now I'm kind of coming back. But like you said, like I'm coming back as a different person in a way. So definitely applying those things from before look very different now. Very different. And

Elizabeth Guilbeault  31:37

it's so good to be able to recognize both see it and honor it. And like you said, acknowledge the doubts. I'm a big fan of writing, college journaling, whatever mode, you want to call it, jotting things down taking notes. To me, it's helpful. If I'm feeling in a space that I'm feeling really doubtful, or I do tend to grab out my notebook or journal and kind of write out let myself see what am I doubting what's coming up. Also, meditation is great space to look at those things will be kind of that as well. Sit and look at it, see what pops up. Sometimes, you might not even realize what the thing is. And if you can give yourself that space, like you said, to work through the doubts. If you can see that get a glimpse of it, it can help you acknowledge it and clear it through it. Yeah,

Mary Clavieres  32:27

yeah. I mean, it took me a while I didn't see what was going on. This is very recent. But I figured out what was going on. It was like, oh, wait a minute, this is what's happening now. It can be hard to see, especially for yourself, because you're so close to it. Yes.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  32:42

And when you brought up when people sign up or people see you, we have such a strong sense of what success is, I feel like there's so much pressure around this picture of success. And sometimes it's challenging to separate out from what other people's picture of successes and your picture of success. And to be able to have that clarity around. Okay, I'm creating this program of creating this, what was gonna feel good to me what's gonna resonate to me? Can I have that versus only 10? People only die people are only 50 or only 100, or whatever the that only word, like, what is your picture of success? Are you holding yourself to a standard, that of other people's success? That's not really yours. And maybe you're not. And that's also great. And also, I, it's a good exercise, to me as you're creating and moving through things and clearing out of the have a hard time or feelings of doubt, moving into a Space of Creation, to really own and have your vision. truly yours. The worst experience is to have an idea and someone shut it down, right. And yet, your idea can still be great. They may not deem it as that you can, it can still be great for you, it can still be a success for you.

Mary Clavieres  34:08

Exactly. I'm actually this new program that I'm doing, I'm actually making it much more aligned to myself and how I want to live. And you know, how I am living and how I want to continue to live and how I want to support people, which I hadn't ever really thought about in the past. But it makes a difference. A little bit. Yeah. And it's probably also part of moving to a quieter place. And I don't know if you feel this way too, but it's like when you move to a quieter place and it's more relaxed and you have less noise, you're able to see things in a different way and feel things in different way. And so with all of that comes more clarity for me in terms of okay, what does my next phase or season look like? Because I've had space to really know so much more of what I want and what I need. Without the noise of so much around me, especially from where I moved from, like the New York New Jersey area is super intense, you know,

Elizabeth Guilbeault  35:12

I actually do know, because I grew up in that area. So I know, I know, on an energetic level, and I know on a physical level, yeah, 100%. And it's so this idea of giving something space to give yourself space, even if you're living in a more congested area, or you can still be very successful, obviously, and create and create make space. To me, it is all about that. The intention of creating that space. You can I mean, I'm a big fan, you can meditate anywhere, I'll go do events or things like that, and do readings, and I've read in a roomful of over 100 people at a party in a corner. And people like how can you how can you do and it's like, because I center my head, that doesn't matter how many people are here or talking or doing whatever, because I'm can be in my space, focus on me and in my own little bubble, if you will. So you can give yourself that space, it is so powerful, to just set that intention to give yourself that space. And I agree 100%, that if you're surrounding yourself with more space, like you mentioned, I'm living in a more rural area, it definitely does lend itself to a little quieter pace a little slower, slower pace, definitely when I go sit down on my porch. And like I said, mentioned living on a dirt road, that's a dead end, I lived on a very, very busy street, where we moved from in Massachusetts, we were laughing about it the other day, probably in the year and a half that we've lived, you're not quite a year and a half we lived here. We haven't seen as many cars as went by our house in a day, probably drive by. And so that that space is definitely attractive and conducive to sitting on the porch and just being quiet and contemplative. And also you can find that anywhere if you create the space for

Mary Clavieres  37:07

it. Right? Yeah, that's such a good point. I went for a massage one time, this was back in the US. And she told me that she does because she also does energy work and other things. And she said whenever they travel, whenever her her family travels, she does like a lot of cleansing and clearing when they're when they get on the plane. Because you're you're next to so many people in such a small space. And it's like you can still cleanse and clear and center yourself, even if there are a lot of people around. So that's a great point.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  37:39

Yes, and it's such a great skill to practice that. And be able to be in tune with what you need, what you want what's going on for you, even if you're surrounded by plain old people or auditory Pearl people or just a lot of neighbors. Yeah. Okay,

Mary Clavieres  37:58

I feel like that's gonna be one of our future topics. And the other one is going to be around readings, because I think that's so fun and fascinating, too. Okay, so we're gonna, like bookmark all these things. See, this is great. I'm so excited for this series. Me

Elizabeth Guilbeault  38:15

too. And hopefully we've created some space, the day for, for people to maybe have some ideas about being a little gentle on themselves, through ups and downs. And also trusting the process that with a little intention, a little awareness, you can really move the needle and create space for yourself to manifest whatever it is that you want. Yes.

Mary Clavieres  38:41

For anyone listening. Please feel your feelings. Very important. Very Yes. And when it feels right, let the tears flow baby. Yes, exactly. Elizabeth, you're gonna take that model far and wide. I know it. I'm gonna start saying it to my kids. It's gonna be we're gonna be great. Thank you so much for this conversation today. I'm, again, I'm really excited to keep having these and to just keep exploring these topics in the moment about life that are all helping us get through and I I really appreciate that you. You bring such practical tools and and really look at the reality of things. It's it's not a conversation of fluff. It's a conversation of these are real things, real challenges that we deal with and how do we keep showing up and keep navigating them and yeah, I so appreciate having these conversations with you. So thank you.

Elizabeth Guilbeault  39:45

So thank you very much.

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